Once again, this boils down to two things. Goku energy projection enough to overpower Superman vs can Superman one shot Goku realistically due to DBZ terrible hand to hand and strength feats?
I don’t see a relevance in bringing that up. Superman is on that casual planetary tier too.
Superman can destroy a planet in a few punches but I wouldn't call him a casual planet buster. To destroy the shadow moon he had to fly at it at 99% the speed of light. Post Crisis Superman has never destroyed a planet in a single punch to my knowledge.
Rebirth Superman has that one feat where he shatters the planet while weakened by jumping I guess. That's the only thing that comes to mind though. Its probably supermans best feat of destruction.
Goku just has the advantage of being able to fire ki blasts. But the average ki blast will be swatted away by Superman.
I don't know about straight up swatted away. Each one of those blasts could potentially destroy a planet.
A full power Kamehameha would be hard to land, but even that probably won’t put Superman down in one hit.
Why not? Scaling from Cell Goku should be able to destroy a solar system. With ease in ssj3.
Superman still has a large advantage in brute strength and speed. I say he’s faster than SSJ3 Goku because of his ability to reach lightspeed which is DBS tier.
Well Superman is faster in flight but that's not to relevant in a fight. Superman's combat speed and reactions aren't light speed. He can accelerate to light speed in travel but he can't move his limbs faster than light. The only advantage Superman might have are perceptions but that shouldn't matter because Goku probably reacts with muscle memory similarly to wonder woman. I would say the same principle applies to Goku where he probably reacts without conscious thought.
In terms of feats Goku and Cell were fighting at speeds that the other Z-fighters had a hard time following. He also has that feat of swatting KI blasts from frieza that were moving so fast that the other Z-fighters couldn't perceive them. I would say that is pretty significant when you consider dragon ball characters have been creating after images with his speed. SSJ3 Goku is a lot stronger since than.
You could also get into the fact that KI blasts have reached the moon in seconds in the past as well.
Superman's planetary durability feats have been matched by a Frieza who wasn't anywhere near his full strength and he's less than fodder to SSJ3 Goku in every category. Goku one shots
you should at least specify which versions. Most versions of Goku stomp Superman. Otherwise we go by current versions in which Goku stomps by a flick of the wrist and calls for a lock of this thread
With current versions this isnt fair. The version of Goku and Superman need to be specified. Otherwise this would be Rebirth vs SSB. Locking it.
Superman one-shots with Heat Vision.
Superman gets stomped by anything past Freeza saga
Once again, this boils down to two things. Goku energy projection enough to overpower Superman vs can Superman one shot Goku realistically due to DBZ terrible hand to hand and strength feats?
Goku should stomp.
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Superman can destroy a planet in a few punches but I wouldn't call him a casual planet buster. To destroy the shadow moon he had to fly at it at 99% the speed of light. Post Crisis Superman has never destroyed a planet in a single punch to my knowledge.
Rebirth Superman has that one feat where he shatters the planet while weakened by jumping I guess. That's the only thing that comes to mind though. Its probably supermans best feat of destruction.
I don't know about straight up swatted away. Each one of those blasts could potentially destroy a planet.
Why not? Scaling from Cell Goku should be able to destroy a solar system. With ease in ssj3.
Well Superman is faster in flight but that's not to relevant in a fight. Superman's combat speed and reactions aren't light speed. He can accelerate to light speed in travel but he can't move his limbs faster than light. The only advantage Superman might have are perceptions but that shouldn't matter because Goku probably reacts with muscle memory similarly to wonder woman. I would say the same principle applies to Goku where he probably reacts without conscious thought.
In terms of feats Goku and Cell were fighting at speeds that the other Z-fighters had a hard time following. He also has that feat of swatting KI blasts from frieza that were moving so fast that the other Z-fighters couldn't perceive them. I would say that is pretty significant when you consider dragon ball characters have been creating after images with his speed. SSJ3 Goku is a lot stronger since than.
You could also get into the fact that KI blasts have reached the moon in seconds in the past as well.
Superman's planetary durability feats have been matched by a Frieza who wasn't anywhere near his full strength and he's less than fodder to SSJ3 Goku in every category. Goku one shots
I have always favored Goku in this match up.
you should at least specify which versions. Most versions of Goku stomp Superman. Otherwise we go by current versions in which Goku stomps by a flick of the wrist and calls for a lock of this thread
Goku sweeps
Goku has better feats after Super.
Goku stomps
Goku